5seven
Citizens! For several years now, the question has been tormenting: why, having two bass drums at a concert and the ability to tune or trigger them, do cult drummers play the gimbal?... Of course not all, some. But still. I'm not talking about small festivals now, but about large events where they play with their entire full set.
kreker
For the same reason why cult guitarists put themselves a whole wall of guitar cabinets, but in fact 1-2 of them work, or even sound goes through the processor)) For pathos))
5seven
so playing on separate pedals is more convenient than turning the shaft! Why gimbal?
alex_marchenko
with a cardan it is more convenient to put a hat.
5seven
interesting theory. But there are special racks of the hat ... They gag to the left barrel. And nothing gets in the way.
kreker
this may be due to the fact that two barrels are not always placed on the rider, and in this case it is better to have a kradan with you.
kreker
I specifically wrote in the question ... What do they do it with their full arrangement ... With their instrument.
alex_marchenko
but you are talking about big festivals, and there time matters. Less rework for each participant. Check out Guitar Center Drum Off, there are a bunch of cymbal stands, but not all are used, because the amount of iron and its location is different for everyone.
1sthast
Cardan and two bass drums are different instruments. Two kicks are good for playing in sync (this increases the power) or the second roll can be played on its own. Various grace notes sound good on the cardan. And also the sound is smoother. Therefore, who uses what and puts.
kreker
how then to explain that they are playing on a triggered barrel? There are stupidly two barrels, the right one with a trigger, and a gimbal. There is even a photo of the Jordisson installation, an inside view. There are two barrels, and a gimbal ... You can also put two pedals and two triggers. There will be power, comfort and even sound ... But no ...
1sthast
everything is simple. Take two snares, tune them the same and play grace notes on two (L hand on one R on the other) and one. Then everything will become clear. Well, I don’t know why there is a barrel without a pedal.
scorp
In other words, it is very difficult to tune two kicks equally. But when there are two of them, you are a very cool type. Well, out of the crowd of spectators, 5 percent will notice that only one is sounded.
kreker
yes it's all clear ... I talked about this with Parvianen from Ensiferum. He answered me like that, they say, it looks cooler ... But having the opportunity to play with two pedals, people use the gimbal. Why???
scorp
Well, about that and speech. That the second barrel is plastic - just for show. It is not customizable in most cases. To tune two instruments in the same way - you will be tortured. It is not enough to rebuild the layers themselves, plus microphones and all the electronics. Of course, they have the opportunity, it's just that the possibility itself is dubious. In most cases, again
5seven
there is a live album Nightwish End of En Era. Nevalanen plays two triggered basses with separate pedals. Also, he plays at a 2001 concert, on two bass drums sounding with microphones ... Jordisson at the studio plays two pidali into the microphones. And at concerts he hits some in the cardan in the presence of two barrels ... I don't understand.
swerus
In fact, it's not always simpler, which looks simpler) to play 2 drums you need 2 pedals, not all double pedals are divided into singles, but having one more alone is fat and for what, for the sake of one end a month, when there is an opportunity to put 2 drums ?) at the stars of the Luzier level, everything is simpler, he just got used to the gimbal, and he played a bunch of times with the root on one barrel, right now, apparently the requirements for the type are different, but the habit remains)
runner
Several times have already seemed to be written, two barrels for the sake of appearance, the gimbal is more convenient in all respects, what is not clear then?
A studio and a concert are completely different conditions for comparing them.
5seven
why is the gimbal useful in the presence of two pedals, two barrels, triggers (microphones), a group of technicians, and in general, in the presence of good financial means ???
andreevmaxik
2 bass drums - for furniture! Looks cooler from the audience!
drummies
The drummer of In Flames simply explained everything - the second barrel is for beauty and so that if a layer breaks on the main one, it is faster to swap the barrels than to put a new layer
kirill_an
swapping barrels when there is a torn layer is an interesting idea.
Fejaus
If there is a pedal on that kick, then for a different sound