runner
Drummers, Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to all! Question!
There is a need to put a backing from the phone / player / laptop on the turnip (with synths, bass, etc.), but do it so that the meter clicks in my ears. As far as I understood, after reading several articles, that it is possible to do without external sound. But then the substrate will be in mono - it's not scary yet. This will require an additional mixer for me. Right? In principle, there is a mixer, where to get it is not a problem. But here's what to stick where, there is a little ambiguity with this. I have never really encountered switching. I understood this, please correct me if I start raving: I take a player, I record a track on it, in which the substrate and the click are split along the panorama: the substrate, for example, in the right channel, the click is in the left. Then I take the stereo pair out of the player and stick it into my additional remote control so that the substrate goes, for example, into the first channel, and the click goes into the second. Now I plug headphones into this additional remote control, and I have everything ready for myself. But I also need the substrate to be heard by other members of the team, that is, to put it into the main console. How can I do this so that only I have the click? Buy more Di-box?
solidator
You made it difficult !!
You take a track in which R is a minus, L is a click ... you start it up from any device through a stereo jack ... then in the center of the wire you solder the adapter into two wires ... where R goes to mono separately from L ... you hang it on the ends on mono Jack ... on one dad, on another mom ... you put headphones in your mom, and listen to the click ... you put your dad in the line remote control and everyone around you hears a minus !!!!
Something like this!!!
kreker
you shoot only the right channel from the master output, and you're done
in general, everything is as you described - "... iki, and I have everything ready for myself" - and you remove the substrate for the team from the right channel of the master output, this signal goes to the base - the main console, from where it is distributed to whom how much and where needed)
kirill_an
In business. Removal of tonsils through the ass is obtained. You need a laptop with a digital audio station (Cubase, etc., etc.) or a port studio, where there will be separate tracks (metronome, minus, etc.). This practice exists. But the horror described by you is catching up with non-acidity.
Maxofff
+ for simplification by means of a laptop and sound, and at concerts it will be more useful
aroma
Why laptop and sound? I bought a cable and adapters, I did not solder anything and everything works according to the scheme as in the first post)
swerus
Faced the same problem. I threw a track on the player (click on the left, minus on the right), unsoldered the stereo jack into two mono jacks. I stuck headphones into one, the second into the remote control. It seemed that everything worked on turnips, but at the concert it stuck as usual at the exit, there was a click in the headphones, as expected, and both channels went into the hall (minus and click) ... what's the jamb?
andreevmaxik
at concerts, the apparatus is differently more complicated than at turnips. It is safer to use a mixer that does all the separation work flawlessly, and does not create such jambs. Well, either dibox
swerus
those. can a Dibox solve the problem?
andreevmaxik
It is quite possible, but to be honest, I did not work with the dibox at all, it is necessary to find out from the experts)
a_sharapko
wait, how does dibox solve the problem? I, of course, guess what you can mean, but in fact it is not adapted for such things.
In general, your version is the most adequate. Without any dancing with tambourines. With a laptop and even a simple sound ear, this will be the most convenient and reliable option.
Of course, soldering as needed is also an option, but I see it as not very reliable.
scorp
dibox matched signal. For example, a guitar with a piezo in the remote control through a dibox.
alex_marchenko
And the idea with a dibox, by the way, will be cool for a week. At concerts, it will be convenient for anyone
runner
With this approach, it turns out that if I want to add / subtract a click, then I have to turn the volume on the player, as a result, after that I have to adjust the volume of the backing on the remote control, right?
solidator
Yes, that's right!!But there is a small minus in all this! For example, at large venues, such as large concert clubs or something, a very crystal sound comes out of the hall. And physically, with the help of desoldering Wires, the panorama is not very clearly divided into channels. Just a little bit, the click climbed into the channels in a line.In small clubs, this is not noticeable.Therefore, when I used such a scheme, in the gap between the remote control and the player, we put a noise control pedal, or gate.
in general, now I use a laptop with a two-channel audio card (Traktor), and in Ableton live I make two tracks, one with a minus and the other with a click, synchronize them and launch a click into one channel of the card, and a minus into another...The perfect signal comes out...plus in the gap card-headphones: ear amplifier...
runner
thanks for introducing me to this nuance. I once read about this somewhere already. I heard how a solution, instead of noise reduction, can be used more expensive wires with separate shielding - they have each of the two wires under the braid in its own screen. But I don’t know how much it helps in practice.
solidator
here I don’t know the truth ... but in general about escaping seems to be true :)
runner
Yes, I've heard about that, too. They even write that Ableton live gives you the opportunity to improvise at concerts, that is, you can cycle some pieces of the substrate, let it go twice and so on. But, to be honest, I can't imagine how it works and I haven't seen this program at all yet)) I think this is the most correct option, we will come to it after some time. It's just necessary to fork out for the card, but for now there are no funds for this, so now it will come off like a collective farm for the first time. By the way, what are the sound standards now and for what?)
P.S.
thanks for the info about the pedal. I will know - it will come in handy.
solidator
we use the Traktor card from Native Instruments, it costs about 6000 rubles .., Ebleton is a very reliable program ... used to play through Sampletude ... And very often we encountered lags ... so I advise it is Ebleton! I just have a laptop on the left, with the saved project of the setlist for the performance ... I press play and let's go !!! I also place marks in difficult places of the song where I can fly out of the click !! Like a computer voice 1,2,3Go
runner
left !!! And to adjust the balance (substrate and click), do you need an additional mixer in your ears, or can you also adjust this through Ebleton? And another question: do you write a substrate directly in Ebleton, or write in something else (Cubase, Nuendo) and then insert it into Ableton? it's just that our keyboard player (who writes all the substrates) works in Cubeis. And another question, will it not be buggy on Windows or is it better to get a poppy seed?
solidator
write in Sampletude, then just render MP3 and insert into Ableton!
Everything in the program is regulated ... and plays from the HP laptop ... the poppy is optional, the main thing is that there are enough operatives on the laptop ... at least 8GB, but we also bought a Slot and now we have 16GB ... this is enough with a margin :)
runner
Here is my simple system. Click yes, sometimes it breaks a little into the overall mix. But not always. I can't figure out why. But in any case, this is not audible at all in the general mix. The plywood itself goes through the dibox into the main console. It is possible to take two channels from the dibox to the remote control. Then a mono signal can be made beautifully almost like a stereo))) I also worked with a laptop with a sound system with stereo plywood. You can't hear the difference. And carrying a laptop and sound is very critical to me. So there was a lot